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will happen. in today's cover story, president obama opens the white house doors to small business owners. stick around for the inside scoup. plus, will it be in or out for groupon's founder? and, why one trader is buying costco in bulk. first business starts now. you're watching first business: financial news, analysis, and today's investment ideas. good morning. it's thursday, november 29th. i'm angela miles. in today's first look: the president obama / congressman boehner bounce: after struggling through the first half of the session, the dow made a triple-digit turnaround, going from red to green on upbeat budget comments from washington. gold took a hit, while oil slipped a bit. regulators are pushing off the final draft of the volcker rule into next year. the rule limits the ability of banks to trade stocks, options, commodities, and more. aaa predicts gas prices for the year 2012 will be the most expensive ever. the national average is $3.63 per gallon, topping $3.51 in 2011. the current price is $3.41, down a penny in the past week. mark sebastian of option pit mentoring and c
, wjz eyewitness news. >>> president obama also told business leaders he will not play games with the fashion's debt ceiling. >>> a string of unseasonably mild days continues right now. a live look outside. and not too bad of a day. but not nearly as warm as the last few days we've seen. bob is in the first warning weather center with the updated forecast. bob? >> if you were asleep all day today, awake yesterday. and going out tonight. big change. because temperatures have been dropping. down to 49. now, it's down to freezing. 32 in oakland. that's coming our way. 48, ocean city. and we are running 11 degrees colder right now than we were yesterday at this time. in oakland, 22 degrees colder, as you see, out to the west. white a bit colder. and tomorrow will be a sunny, dry day. but it will be chilly. temperatures only in the 40s. probably only mid-40s tomorrow afternoon. it will be colder next day or so. but even milder air coming back for the weekend. >>> big business for baltimore. the national aquarium is one of the most popular t
lack of business integrity." tomorrow, president obama will send his top negotiators to meet tith congressional leaders. they have only weeks now to head off a big tax increase for most americans. the income tax rates will jump automatically january 1. it will be such a shock to the system that it has been called the fiscal cliff. our coverage starts on the white house lawn tonight with major garrett. major. >> reporter: scott, the saesident said for the first time, there is a two-step process to averting the fiscal cliff. republicans must act now to prevent a tax increase for households earning less than $250,000. do that now, president obama said, and he and congress can work out the details of spending cuts later. ( applause ) before a crowd of supporters, the white house invited from the mid-atlantic region, president obama put congressional republicans on notice. >> it's too important for washington to screw this up. now is the time for us to work on what we all agreed to, which is lets keep middle class taxes low. that's what our economy needs. that's what the american peopl
melissa: rally mode. i am melissa francis. lori: i am lori rothman. president obama telling business leaders he is cheering for their success. tax hikes for the wealthy saying there will be no deal without tax rate increases. melissa: 11,000 now out of work at citi. slashing jobs taking a billion dollars charge as it repositioned oppositions. charlie gasparino tells us it is even more cuts are on the way. lori: new warnings and ethanol blended gasoline. joining us on whether you should be worried about what you put into your gas tank. let's get up to speed, back the floor of the new york stock exchange and nicole petallides. economic data on the service industry. nicole: looking good, lori and melissa. up 125 points. after two days of selling we are seeing some market action to the upside. we are above the 13,000 mark, well above that. 13,076. the nasdaq squeezing it out. concern for apple, but financials are doing well. let's take a look at the group. laying off 11,000 workers, that is the plan. a new ceo in place and he wants to make his mark. up 6.5%. it is under pressure
obama's going to speak to the business round table today about the ongoing fiscal cliff talks. boeing ceo jim mcnearney says members want a balanced solution in debt issues, including meaningful and comprehensive tax and entitlement reforms. well, you're not going to get that. anyway -- sorry, jim. we're going to be watching facebook stock today. the company will join the nasdaq -- got to watch it. i'm trying to rise. trying. the nasdaq 100 -- >> sinking, sinking -- >> like a snake. replaces tech firm emphasis, which is moving the listing to the big board. and let's get a check on the markets which are indicated higher today up about 50 points. overseas, let's check out asia and europe. there's a -- .4%. >> had a big move. >> yeah. big move on the hang seng and green arrows everywhere. let's check out europe quickly. also fractional gains there, up about a third of a point each. >>> steny hoyer is striking a conciliatory tone saying both sides will need to bend to avoid the fiscal cliff. congressman hoyer joins us from washington with more this morning, and sir, it's great to see you.
america? >> tom: i'm tom hudson. president obama tries to win over top business leaders, warning republicans are holding the global economy hostage over the fiscal cliff. >> susie: and apple shares get of the most widely owned stocks sees heavy trading. >> tom: that and more tonight on "n.b.r." >> susie: big job cuts today at one of the nation's biggest banks. citigroup announced it's slashing 4% of its staff; that works out to 11,000 jobs worldwide. the cuts will save the bank more than $1 billion a year in expenses. but they won't be cheap, resulting in a billion-dollar charge against fourth-quarter earnings. is this gloomy news from citi the beginning of other companies doing the same? suzanne pratt reports. >> reporter: 11,000 jobs are a lot of layoffs, even for a bank as huge as citi. and there could be more. that's because the monster firm is still struggling to recover from the great recession even though it has fired a lot of other workers in the last few years. the thing is, citi has a new c.e.o. in michael corbat, and experts say he's anxious to make his mark, even if t
. president obama addresses the business roundtable and that could be critical. david has an exclusive interview with ken moelis. back to you guys. >> let's get six in 60. six stocks in 60 seconds. >> yesterday's news overshadowed by many things. a fantastic quarter. we knew it would be household formation buying on weakness. >> 17 straight. number of quarters where they beat it. this was a major miss. >> rbc does not like clf. this is again china. i don't like it either but china is coming back. >> naz 100 taking on facebook. >> money is an index to the naz 100. people paid for this in premarket. it was a mistake. >> citi thinks limited can do a special div. >> limited has a lot of cash. gap said no yesterday. hurt the stock. >> goldman starts utx neutral. great company. a slap in the face, carl. boom. slap in the face. >> you got that right. what's on "mad" tonight? >> i have been featuring these investment -- look, the etf. i've been feeling they know america. i have to know how bad america is. they do the southeast. great company. >> we've not talked a lot about the cliff today. it
of perfection. >> gretchen: when president obama needed a business boost during his reconnection campaign, the former ceo of costco came to his defense, making a prime time speech at the democratic national convention. >> business needs a president who covered the backs of businesses, a president who understands what the private sector needs to succeed. a president who takes the longview and makes the tough decisions. that's why i'm here tonight supporting president obama. >> gretchen: so now he and the rest of the costco board cashing in on that support, having voted to give them selves a special dividend to avoid the president's looming tax increase. so is this what the president means by tax fairness? the host of varney and company, stuart varney, is here. i'm so glad you're going to explain this because it is relatively complicated. what did they do? >> first of all, let me explain tax hypocrisy. here is how it works, the board of costco, which is headed by that gentleman, they vote themselves a special $7 per share dividend. he and his wife own 2 million shares of costco. so they ge
calories. marie callender's. it's time to savor. >>eric: president obama taking the tax hike show on road to america's c.e.o. touting higher taxes today at a business roundtable. small businesses say the hikes he wants will kill jobs but at least one big business ain't buying it. here is what the fedex c.e.o. says, there is a lost mythology in washington, dc such as small business creates all the jobs in the united states, and if you raise the rates on the top 2 percent you kill jobs. the reality is the vast majority of jobs in the united states are produced by capital investment, in equipment, and software, that is not done by small business. try telling that to the owner of an auto mall on long island. small business owner, what do you think when you hear a big guy, big business guy like the fedex c.e.o. say i am not worried. >>guest: i disagree with fred smith. first of all, if you take the top 100 fortune 500 companies and added all their capital investment together, it would not, you would not scratch the surface compared to the capital investment, almost 18 million small businesses
what they say i see ae small business tax hike president obama is pushing. the president is skipping town also for a quick stop in northern virginia. there he will meet with a middle-class family to press congress to protect those making less than $250,000 per year for a tax increase by raising rates on those earning more. the white house demanding a tax rate increase. republicans will agree to increase taxes through eliminating deductions. even if they figure out taxes, democrats and republicans still have to resolve significant differences on entitlements. take a listen. >> it is not even the right thing to do first and foremost. visit the trophy that republicans want? is that what they want to do what is right to raise the rates? speak of the american people want us to fight to cut spending. it is a fight we are happy to have. >> a house aide said president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke on3 the phone yesterday afternoon, their first conversation a week and since republicans offered $800 billion in new tax revenue and more than a trillion dollars in spending cuts, repu
person, everyone talks about what the fiscal cliff could do to small business, what obama care can do for small business, but you said we shouldn't worry about that so much, that we should get some sort of compromise in order to keep moving and keep talking and keep moving forward? >> well, i think that it was pretty clear during the course of the election and since and even in the president's speech today where he said he's willing to give on some revenue and some spending cuts, he's proposed some, he's already passed some into law. and beyond that, just from my perspective, what i see is that we know that we're a confidence-based economy, we're 70% of the economy driven by consumer spending and anything that puts a crimp in consumer spending is not good for the economy. so to put a tax rise, a tax rate increase for the middle class makes no sense to me. someone who makes 50, 60, $70,000 a year will lose and will take away a lot of discretionary purchases from people like me and travel and a whole host of other areas. i hope our leaders in washington are listening and they take the s
that there won't be any deal. president obama with the business roundtable. >> any formula that says we can't increase tax rates probably only yields about $300 to $400 billion realistically. that's well short of the amount of revenue that's needed for a balanced package. >> bill: just won't cut it. the president said. he also appeared yesterday morning on tom joyner's radio show. and said if you want a deal, if you want a compromise, there's only one way to get there and that's the one thing missing if republicans will agree that tax rates will not -- will not -- the tax cuts will not continue for the top 2%. he said we've got a deal. >> obama: i think once republicans agree to let the tax rates go up on the top 2%, like i talked about during the campaign like the majority of americans agree to, once we do that, and i think we can get a deal. >> bill: and at the briefing yesterday, jay carney made the same point saying that there was no way -- he said it one more time. in fact, i tweeted out yesterday while i was at the
is out until tuesday, republican lawmakers say they'll speak with small businesses while back in their districts to discuss the president's tax plan and highlight what they call his small business tax hike. president obama spent his afternoon in northern virginia again pushing his case for raising taxes on families earning more than $250,000 a year. >> i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%, but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good for families like this one and that is good for the american economy. >> so i think it's safe to say at this point that the president actually isn't interested in a balanced agreement, he's not particularly interested in avoiding the fiscal cliff, and he's clearly not interested at all in cutting any spending. >> reporter: while democrats and republicans debate the size and specifics on tax increases, the two sides also remain apart on spending cuts, reforming entitlement programs like medicare and on the president's request to have greater power to rai
be able to help. ashley: the white house releasing a photo of president obama tweeting about the fiscal cliff. so far his answers are a blinding glimpse of the obvious. we will continue to monitor that. we will bring you the latest. you can also watch it on fox business.com. tracy: there is not that many. i am kind of surprised he has not gotten more questions. ashley: i think no one is bothering. tracy: the answers are pretty obvious. thirty past the hour. time to get a check on the markets. lauren simonetti on the floor. >> i do not know, we are struggling to stay near 13,000. >> there is a lot of time coming up between now and then. let's just try to get to the week where we are right now. everyone is talking about the fiscal cliff and the unemployment number. with the clouds over the market, i think investors will play it very tightly coming into year end. there are people positioning themselves for next year. we cannot forget about the economic data that will help us into next year. i think it is important we get a good implement number here. >> what are you thinking for friday wit
businesses want it. i think that's one thing i got from president obama's meeting with the business round table yesterday. and so they might be saying if you're going to raise taxes, let's just go all the way. republicans are only going to agree to tax increases if they offer spending cuts and i mean i don't know how you define the grand bargain but, you know, in my view, because they haven't done a tax increase, a real, sizable tax increase in so long, since the early 1990 under president clinton, almost any significant tax increase i would say is a pretty big deal a pretty grand achievement. host: next call, george, maryland, on the democrats' line. caller: i want to ask mr. gold mar b, i notice in the -- mr. goldfarb, i notice in the president's discussion, he included extenders. what are those? guest: forget what i was saying about the 15-year depreciation -- 15-year and 39 year, instant depreciation allows businesses to take de-- bonus depreciation allows businesses to take depreciation immediatery, it can be 50% in a given year, it can be pushed up to 100%. i'm not sure whether it's
that president obama would offer mitt romney secretary of business. >> brian: that is. >> gretchen: that would be fantastic but i doubt it. >> brian: in reading his bio. one of the business mistake was working in the cabinet for president nixon. i am personally kind of disappointed that bee are talking about tax rates for the rich. >> steve: campaign. >> brian: what about the middle class people standing in the back drop as they need a break and the president urging for something to be done yesterday and there is no scheduled meetings with john boehner. >> gretchen: it is annoying to see just a campaign. how many people are tired of a campaign speech. why not come to the table and figure it out. i don't understand it. >> steve: at this point, both sides know what they will give up. what their concessions will be. they don't want to go first. we are 33 days away from the official fiscal cliff and sailing off of it . in the washington post they describe a sense much gloom descending over the capitol, bowles meet and he sees one and three chance of an agreement before january. but mr. bowles had
. dennis: president obama pushing the fiscal cliff to the business leaders. cheryl: speaker john boehner is getting an earful saying he is caving. rich edson is in washington with more. >> perhaps folks in washington are thinking maybe these two sides will get down to actually doing sometime soon but they say that is noo happening right now. house speaker john boehner said he's willing to sit down and talk to the president. we asked the white house if they plan on calling the speaker of the house inviting him over for a phone call, the white house hasn't responded to that question. coming down to two objects. >> if all you're relying on his closing exceptions and loopholes. let me amend that. it is not wise to do as a practical matter. >> they will come from guess who. the rich. there are ways to limit the options, close the polls and have them pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates. >> that seems to be the key to this entire fiscal cliff mess. president obama saying the roundtable was struck by ceo's willingness to pay higher taxes and patriotic duty
announcer ] yes, it is, business pro. yes, it is. go national. go like a pro. neil: is president obama still sitting here? governor romney does visiting here? all beuse mitt romney was in a serious order taken serisly? that he was the butt of more jokes. david brennan is on the phone right now. thanks for joining. >> thank you. neil: you have seen the studies. remember, they broke down the juxtaposition of jokes you and it was something like 10 to one, making fun of romney. >> i think first of all you have to know that the comedian's lean left anyway. always. i mean, they are basically -- even though they try to balance that, they are going to make fun of the other guy who is running against a democrat. but in spite of that, it doesn't matter. you know, look at george w. bush. talk about a walking talking joke the second time that he ran -- were you kidding me? all he had to do was repeat what he said and people were screaming. neiland he got reelected. >> and he got reelected i will say that that is ight. i do think it was overly disproportionate and part of my thinking is that everything
from the irs heading your way all thanks to obama care. here i-94 to break them down for us is diane macedo from the fox business network. >> that's right. the irs is releasing the rules on how to implement the new taxes that will take effect in 2013 to help pay for the affordable care act. one of the main runs is 3.8 percent sir tax on the investment income. the first tax ever to be applied to capital gains and dividend income. it is a broad range of investment securities and those making thmore than 200,000 a ye and married couples making more than 250,000. they are set to pay a .9 percent healthcare tax on their wages. together the two taxes are supposed to raise 318 billion over ten years. over those years more and more people will be taking them because the income level triggered the taxes doesn't rise with inflation. any one planning to sell a house make more than 500,000 and those gains will also be taxed. they will release a new form for taxpayers to fill out. 1230 returns related to all of the new taxes. all of the rules make it harder for individuals to comply with the regu
. if convicted, he faces life in prison. president obama will travel to detroit on monday for a fight for the fiscal cliff deal that include as tax increase for the rich. he met with business leaders in washington d.c. and he is aware that some republicans may be willing to raise tax revenues. but he warped the gop not to pick another fight on the debt sealing. he was can dade -- death ceiling and he was can -- he was candid. >> this is the top 2%. includes all of you, yes. >> i believe there is a purpose to put revenues on the table. >> house speaker boehner countered the president's proposal without raising individual tax rates. the republican plan also includes 600 billion in spending cuts to federal healthcare programs and increase in the eligibility age for medicare. >>> a san francisco blogger and activist is in hot water of a photograph after political opponent. michael petrellis took this of scott weaner last year in a pact room. >> he tried to take a picture of him at an urinal. and today, he pleaded not guilty to misconduct. he wants it to be made as part of the from. >> we
on the top two rates. it will hurt small businesses. it will hurt our economy. why? this is not the right approach. >> reporter: boehner and president obama said they are optimistic that a deal can be reached by christmas. >>> turning overseas to egypt, where opponents of president mohamed morsi are calling for a second revolution. morsi is addressing his people today. a speech in which he's expected to discuss his move last week to seize near absolute power. thousands have been on the streets of cairo protesting that move since. morsi is showing no signs, though, of backing down. >>> and with the conflict in syria showing no signs of ending, the obama administration is reportedly considering deeper intervention there. this morning's "new york times" says no decisions have been made. but several options are being looked at, including providing arms to anti-government fighters. a decision on whether to deploy surface-to-air missiles in neighboring areas is likely next week. >>> and a major milestone is expected at the u.n. today, when the general assembly votes to give statehood to the pal
clinton. monica crowley, fox news contributor. i it's the thing to do. you get a call. >> president obama has a pattern of inviting political opponents, business leaders to the white house for some sort of confab. what it kals end ends up being is a photo opportunity so he looks like he's extending himself to the opposition, he's bipartisan, and he is neither of those things. bill: would you accept that invite. >> i would accept in a heartbeat. bill: monica is saying nada on this. >> i would be more optimistic on this. we are groping for bi-partisanship. if governor romney has things to share and ways to bridge the fiscal cliff this is all good. bill: we went back to the vault to figure out what they are not going to talk about. we found this first of all, okay. i want you to listen to. roll it. >> i've been in business for 25 years. i have no idea what you're talking about. i had a friend who said you don't just pick the winners and losers, you pick the losers. bill: i've been in business 25 years. i've got no idea what you're talking about. >> actually those points may come up. bill: yo
the hour. jitters for small business owners. president obama is calling for $1.6 trillion in tax spikes. john boehner is telling him to get serious. >> with 32 days left, the two parties are trading insults with 90% of americans facing higher taxes next year. small business owners want answers. poppy harlow is talking to them. they are very nervous about this. >> very nervous and frustrated. they have no idea what is ahead. that uncertainty is the hard part. we went to new jersey to talk to owners of very different businesses that are equally frustrated that washington can't get it together. >> any company, any business did the method of accounting like the government, we would be in jail. >> you sound like you have had it. >> i have. here is the reservations. staffed 24 hours a day. >> reporter: he started the business back in 1984. today, he's got a staff of 75. 53 cars and one big question. >> i just want congress to tell me to come up with what the boundaries are so i know -- i know how to run my business, i know how to plan. >> reporter: he's laid off four employees in the last six
to start talking to house republicans. so ceos in the business community right in the middle of this negotiation. >> eamon javers, thank you. >>> john harwood has the latest on mr. obama's big meeting with some of those ceos. john? >> the other way the ceos are in the middle of this is the president appeared before the business roundtable today as part of his effort to continue rounding up support from various constituencies for what he calls a balanced approach. one of the things he pressed was a priority that the head of the business roundtable, john eng r engler, has suggested which is a longer term fix to the debt ceiling problem. remember that it was a catastrophic standoff in mid 2011 that caused the downgrade in u.s. credit. president said he's simply not going to negotiate in the negotiating process that results in the same kind of stand-off. here is the president. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation? which, by the way, we have ne
are catching on to that fact. >> today president obama takes his message to a toy manufacturer in pennsylvania. it is an american business off the white house said could be affected because income tax go up forever one next year. >> mitt romney met with president obama from lunch at the white house yesterday we were anticipating it yesterday morning. >> the pair eight at a private dining room it was actually the first time both have met each other since the election wrap up an early november. the present first mentioned meeting with the former governor in his victory speech in chicago o'hare this month. the president said he looked forward to talking with romney about ways to move the country forward. prison obama also praised out romney manage the olympics in salt lake city in 2002. >> will take a quick break back mwith more in a minute. we are watching the wet weather that is our top story of the right light to moderate and at times heavy with the wind out of the bay area's. we will come back with your forecast just a moment. we are back here at 4:30 in the western center talking to erica ab
's business. president obama wants to fall off the cliff. that's why he wants to go do that to the middle class and blame the republicans. host: caller, we'll leave it there. caller: be on the republican lines say, let them talk. guest: so it may be that this filibuster idea may have more support. toocrats don't want eliminate the filibuster. they want to keep it in place but just want to change the burden and move it to where there's one bite at the apple on a particular bit. so these changes are not earth shaking. one is your perspective on it, whether you're in the majority or minority. but the way you do it becomes an important part of this. that's why the implications here are fairly clear which -- fairly clear. if we end up seeing this happen by call it the nuclear option or defined as the constitutional option that it's perfectly constitutional to change the rules by a majority. but that means on issues from the budget to immigration to many of the other priorities we have, a farm bill that's not yet gone through, we could see another twist in this that goes beyond a simple rules c
is trying to avoid plunging of the fiscal cliff. he has made clear that the obama administration is saying that the first order of business has to be to extend tax breaks for middle-class families and raise tax rates for the top 2% of income earners. talks over how to rein in entitlement spending should be held sometime next year. >> the president is asking for $1.6 trillion of new revenue over 10 years. twice as much as he has been asking for the public. his stimulus spending exceeded the amount of new cuts that he was willing to consider. it was not a serious offer. reporter: enter a new player in the talks, stephanie cutter. you remember her? she was the deputy campaign manager for the obama-biden ticket suggested that mitt romney might have committed a felony on his tax returns. sunday night, she e-mailed them to reach a fiscal deal. republicans have balked at raising those tax rates. they are identified by marcus at countries job creators. >> for the first time in two decades, they are there will tell revenues go up as part is the plan. but they have to tell us what they're willing to
in washington on the so-called fiscal cliff. president obama plans to enter questions from business members. the group has been urging action to prevent huge automatic tax increases in january. those are some of the latest headlines on c-span radio. [video clip] >> we have not coordinated care. all these services have so many cracks that the cracks are as harmful as the diseases that we're treating. you have to step back and ask, are we hurting people overall? what are we doing? now we have the report saying 30% of everything we do not be necessary in health care. 30% of medications we subscribe, the test and procedures we order. this is something for the first time been called out as a problem. >> this function in the health- care industry. what hospitals will not tell you. urday night at 10:00 p.m. on c-span2. >> "washington journal" continues. host: we have been focusing on different aspects of the fiscal cliff. we want to look at capital gains tax and the estate tax. what is the estate tax? guest: it goes back to history -- it was put in place to prevent the united states from developin
. president obama's insistence that any deal include higher tax rates for high-income earners. we asked wyatt andrews to tell us how that might affect small businesses. >> so we need a couple of boxes for these. >> reporter: kevin green owns two flower and gift shops in alexandria, virginia, and he says raising taxes on the wealthy won't just hurt him. it will hurt his workers and the economy. >> all you do is reduce the capital available for investment and employment. >> reporter: small business owners typically report business income on their personal taxes. in a good year, green's income will exceed $250,000, making him one of the taxpayers the president says should pay more. in his case, an estimated $8,000 more. what's the economic downside to asking eight more thousand dollars for you? >> i don't have $8,000 to spend on those employees or that inventory or the business that draws customers. >> reporter: by congressional estimates there are some 941,000 high-income small businesses. the president says that number includes truly rich small firms like hedge funds, but when republicans argu
for higher income americans, but next year, everybody's rates have gone up, and then we're in the business of negotiating a tax cut, and president obama gets to negotiate a tax cut with republicans, a lot more fun and easier to do than tax increases. i don't know they get more leverage in the new year with the possible exception that the fact that, you know, the debt ceiling will loom again, hitting that debt ceiling giving republicans some leverage down the road, but in the short term, you're right, the leverage goes more to president obama right now. >> i have fiscal cliff fatigue. thank you very much. >> sure. tracy: we all do, dennis, but we have to talk about it because congress has to deal with it. we have a new gallup poll showing 5 # 4% of the voters rate the honesty of members of congress below that of used car salesmen. dianne black of tennessee joins us from the home state to hear what the constituents are telling her. what are con constituents sayin? >> well, you know, i'm hearing -oth from my individual constituents and business owners they are really concerned about the spend
years is say no, no, no to any kind of -- and obama has tried to push through bills to cut taxes for job creators, fo. host: for small businesses? caller: yes, for small businesses. host: here is reaction from senator lindsey gramm. he says this -- a republican from new jersey, go ahead. caller: i am calling in reference to this fiscal cliff. at this point, all the seniors are already in trouble. they are not going to get but a little increase. congress will automatically get a raise. theys hould stop that. they don't need the money anymore. they have plenty. obama is going to have his way, and that's it. host: can you hang on the line? let me get your reaction from larry duncan on twitter who says -- what do you think, margaret? caller: i think that is correct. there are a lot of loopholes but they do not want to do this. they are happy because they are getting this extra money. if obama gets -- i don't have a charge card. i am paying off all my debt. we should pay off all large debt. how much are we paying for this debt that we go? that is a waste. why should anyone else do it? congres
would say if you have these point of views in a business context, i would say a deal would be in reach. >> among our guests this morning, we have ron johnson. at the white house today, president obama will host mitt romney for a private lunch. it's their first meeting since the election. and this his victory speech, obama promised to engage with romney and consider his ideas. >> a lot of people didn't think the lunch would ever happen. >> interesting if he's going to be talking about ideas, mitt romney's idea had been to reach some sort of a cap on it 00 mem deductions. >> he would have just extended the bush tax cuts and then the other stuff would have been -- but if romney had been elected, whether bad long term to extend them, that's one thing, but he would have extended -- this is a weird argument to be having to have everything hinging on on the 2% that are -- suddenly as i've said before, suddenly everybody loves the bush tax cuts. so weird. >> flips the tables on who likes what. >> it all goes back to the line in the band. obama first time around caved and his base never for gav
and put businesses in a further hole. president barack obama, august, 2009. he was absolutely right then. those facts hold true today. it's not just those facts hold true over a small period of time, mr. speaker. those facts hold true over a decade. john kennedy's quotes, president john f. kennedy, i just want to take you back, mr. speaker, it's not as if these are new ideas we are talking about. this isn't some rocket science problem that's suddenly been thrust upon the united states of america in 2012. these are basic economics. adam smith talked about these years ago. this is in one of john f. kennedy's news conference in 1962 as he was providing the largest tax cut in modern american history he said this, he said it's a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high and tax revenues are too low. that's where we are today, mr. speaker. tax rates are too high and tax revenues are too low. it's a paradoxical truth that can be true. he goes on. he says the soundest way to raise revenues, that's exactly what we are trying to do when we talk about balanced approach. we need to cut spending.
of the political art here, but i would say if you have these point of views in a business context as close as they are, i would say a deal would be in reach. >> ford chairman bill ford junior agrees with blankfein saying he's confident the obama administration can reach a deal with congress to avoid the fiscal cliff. but speaking with reporters in bangkok, he says the automaker is prepared for any outcome. cnbc has learned the completion of the so-called volcker rule is being delayed until the end of the first quarter of next year instead of the end of this year. the rule which is named for paul volcker bans banks from proprietary trading. but it's proven difficult for u.s. regulators to define and high volume of feedback has led to push back, repeated push back, of that deadline. mervyn king will release financial stability report today. there's been speculation in the report that king will raise capital requirements for banks and introduce new banking regulations. for our uk viewers, we'll bring you live coverage of the bank of england's report in just over an hour. for thousannow, chris
'll have to move. so this is obama 2.0. a much more engaged, a much more activist president. you series bringing a business community in, community leaders, small business, not for profit. he'll be much more engaged in this second term. >> morris, on this issue, are we just going to get something that just gets us through this period? because there are those who want to tie in a longer term debt strategy and solution. it seems if we do that, that will muddy the waters here short term. >> he what they need to do is c to an agreement on what they can agree on. the president said we should all be able to agree on this first 23 250,000 and then move to the next congress for something more comprehensive. there's never going to be a situation where you'll be able to swallow the whole pie. comprehensive tax reform is very hard and dealing with all the entitlements will be very hard. so i think the best thing to do is get something that gets us past the dead line and then come back to the table and get something more comprehensive done. >> when it comes down to it, are politicians, in their gut
and neither side seems any closer to coming to a deal. this morning president obama is going to talk to members of the washington business round table. house speaker john boehner and congressional leaders will meet with small business owners on the hill. talking to everybody else doesn't look like they're talking to each other. they're not reaching across the aisle here. my next guest says that most politicians don't want to go over the cliff but some partisans might derail the discussions. there is a danger ahead, a growing core russ on both sides who insist there's no reason to fear going over the fiscal cliff y if if the cliff exists at all. call them cliff deniers. leading directly to the loss of america's aaa credit rating. listening to them again would be the definition of insanity. john who has a ph.d. in instaneny co-author of "deadline artists." i was in d.c. this week and struck by there is one track going on of negotiations, the track you're seeing on television. not the smoke filled back rooms at this point. they're not there yet. usually i complain about the deals happen
, on the margin, these people may not lose their businesses, but they will have to let people go. that's an economic reality that democrats tell me, republicans tell me, obama supporters tell me, romney supporters tell me. if you're running a small business on the margins. these tax increases, these regulatory increases, they do matter in the real world out there. maybe not at coca-cola or comcast or deloitte, but they certainly do on main street. you would agree to that, right, donny? >> based on a half million. there's a huge difference between 250,000 and 500,000. >> donny, and you i agree on that 100%. if i were still in congress, i would say, listen, i will negotiate on anything, but i am not going to raise taxes in this police climate on people making $250,000. you want to talk about $500,000? great. let's talk about it. $250,000 is a nonstarter for small business owners. in my opinion. hey, chuck, thank you so much for being with us. >> reporter: all right, brother. >> we'll see you on "the daily rundown" right after the show. joe, thank you for being with us, and more important
nancy pelosi followed by president obama's comments. the house of representatives has finished their business for the week. they looked ahead to how negotiations on the fiscal cliff might affect the house schedule. this is half an hour. hank the gentleman. i yield to the majority leader. mr. cantor: i thank the gentleman, mr. speaker. on monday, no votes are expected in the house. on tuesday the house will meet at noon for morning hour and 2:00 p.m. for legislative business. votes will be postponed until 6:30 p.m. on wednesday the house will meet at 10:00 a.m. for morning hour and noon for legislative business. on thursday the house will meet at 9:00 a.m. for legislative business. last votes of the week are expected no later than 3:00 p.m. on thursday. members are advised that this is a change from the original house calendar. mr. speaker, the house will consider a number of bills under suspension of the rules, a complete list of which will be announced by the close of business friday. additionally the house will appoint conferees for the national defense authorization act now
-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. this is awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it is, business pro. yes, it is. go national. go like a pro. >> it's a pretty flat market, despite the news of president obama's i'm going to call it slap in the face to the republicans on the fiscal cliff. check the price of oil. 88 a barrel, up a little. lisp to this, we've got a huge drop in the birth rate in the united states. the recession may be to blame. 64 births per 1,000 women of chile baring age, 15-44 in 2010. that's about half of what it was in the peak of the baby boom 1957. the birth rate is way down. liz macdonald and gerri willis are here on this subject. do you have any idea what's going on here? >> well, two sides could help explain that. first of all, mexico, for example, is doing better than it has been, fewer immigrants coming from mexico. there's a draw there right now going on in that country and here is the other thing, in this recession, two things that typically don't get hit as typically they got hit this time around. housing construction where immigrants work and farms where
small businesses. econill hurt our economy. approach.y this is not the right r: toach. anythis impasse is one of many geithnerreasury secretary tim geithner, mr. obama's lead with t negotiator, will have meetings e bowlesth top congressional thisrs. othpson bowles met with all the ue.yers at both ends of 'mnnsylvania avenue. >> i'm not more optimistic or less optimistic. puthopeful but don't put me e nearnywhere near the optimistic category. tove got a long way to go and a likefew days to get it done. >> lindsey graham from south carolina have offered to break a revenueax increase pledge and ntise revenue as part of a deal but graham now is pulling back until the president offers ntitlement reform. a i've not seen one deal from country downouse that deal with medicare, medicaid and social security which are all going to fail and take this country down the road of grief. and until i hear something from the white house on that, i'm not going to say another thing on revenue. >> mr. obama will meet with his v vanquished republican rival, mitt romney. it's been several weeks, after all, sin
obama is taking his fight over the fiscal cliff today heading to hatfield, pennsylvania. he is going to tour the rhodon group manufacturing facility. >> that's a place the white house says is one of the many businesses that depends upon middle class shoppers this holiday season. rhodon manufactures connect brand. that time group sells toys like angry birds building sets and tinker toys. at the end of the year, as i am sure you know by now the average middle class family is facing a 2,000 dollar tax hike. on monday of this week the white house released a report saying that could be americans spending $200,000,000,000 less in 2013. the president will continue to push his message but is it time to reach a deal over the fiscal cliff? but the g.o.p. is not so keen on a deal, at least the one the white house presented yesterday. the first offer from president obama and treasury secretary timothy geithner included a $1.6 trillion tax increase along with an extension of the payroll answer it cut and unemployment insurance and a request for $50,000,000,000 worth
people n if it affects the economy, it facts everyone. and those people are small businesses. those people then it goes down to the employees and it slows our economy and this is not a time to be doing that. this is why president obama extend the tax rates for a year action because he said this could hurt the economy. here we are again. we're not anywhere different than we were last year really. >> gregg: donna, dick durbin, the senate's number two democrat, said that social security is off the table because i'm going to quote him here -- it does not add a penny to our deficit. that's ludicrus. >> i think that i'm unable to comment because i think the context may have something to do with the sense of lock box and where this money actually comes from and where it sits in the meanwhile before it gets spent. but i also think it's awfully important to remember that in terms of republican cooperation, the president really has been i think very sincere about seeking that cooperation and initially speaker boehner i think expressed with great sincerity his interest in cooperation. i dare s
:00 eastern here on c-span. and following that, today's events op the fiscal cliff with president obama and house speaker john boehner. the president said in remarks to the business round table today that he was aware of reports that republicans may be willing to agree to higher tax rates on the wealthy as a way to avert the looming fiscal cliff and then come back next year with more leverage to extract spending cuts from the white house in exchange for raising the government's borrowing limit. we'll also have house speaker john boehner's news conference today where he said it's time for the white house to respond to monday's republican proposal for avoiding the fiscal cliff. see the president and speaker boehner tonight at 9:00 eastern. elsewhere on the hill today the senate appropriations committee on homeland security held a hearing on fema's response to hurricane sandy. senators from new york, rhode island, connecticut and delaware testified before the committee on the challenges their constituents face in the aftermath of the storm and what's needed to move forward. >> good morning
not saying that we sit on our hands. that is the style of activity. the reinforcement that we mean business, that is where you want to do but. >> this is a little bit inside. the obama administration has said it wants to prevent iran from getting a nuclear weapon. but what does that mean? does that mean we have evidence that there bolting the last polls together for a deliverable nuclear weapon -- bolts together for a deliverable nuclear weapon? does that mean they have too much 20% material and could break out more quickly? there is a real need of for try to define that. in our report, we tried to do that, not in a red line way, but in a way that the u.s. has to be prepared to be able to make an assessment based on a set of criteria that if iran meets that set of criteria or there is a judgment, the u.s. would respond militarily. i think right now, at least what i hear, it is not well defined in. you have israel taking a very different point of view, where they have said that they may strike militarily when iran reaches a certain level of nuclear weapons capability. that would be short of
't it true president obama is trying to do just that by taking his plans directly to the american people? >> reporter: yeah. that's right. he did that last week. he's meeting with business leaders this week. he'll be addressing the business roundtable and i think a lesson learned, carol. you saw the debt ceiling debate that went on last year and there were all these meetings between the white house and congressional leaders and didn't seem like they were working and doesn't work to president obama's advantage and the strategy is to go outside, get some pressure going. and they don't really want to have a meeting or else they lose the mojo and interesting what anna says and i think people are concerned because two weeks ago you have a kumbaya feeling and you're not feeling that now. but it's december 3rd. in the way these things work and we saw this in the payroll tax cut last year, the debt ceiling, the near-government shutdown last year f. you blink you kind of wait until the last minute to do it. >> when no one notices. >> reporter: yeah. i think in a couple of weeks that's when you ma
business. that is pretty good. let me get to the first question. some observers from canada who are having insight into your thinking have opined that in the last four years obama "at canada." "lost cananade." da." >what is the state of the relationship? >> i disagree. i said it is an important relationship as canadians with the united states. one of the best thing this country has it is neighborhood. i was talking to prime minister netanyahu. [indiscernible] we have the united states on one side. it is the best neighbor you can have. we are fortunate it is the responsibility of canada to have as good a relationship we can while protecting our relationship with the u.s. with president obama, we are embarking on an unprecedented exercise an effort at further integration and selling of the border. this is important for both countries. i not agreebama and i on everything. these countries a share so many in common -- an economy and larger value system. we share security needs and we share security threats. when you have a relationship that close, it cannot help but be good. it has been good. i
the last couple of weeks. going over the fiscal cliff is serious business and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> the white house says they are willing to do tough things to compromise, so now it's time for republicans in washington to ask the wealthiest americans to pay higher tax rates. >> asking for a political price be paid in order for congress to do its job to insure that the united states of america pays its bills and does not default for the first time in its history is deeply irresponsible. it was deeply irresponsible in the summer of 2011 and it would be deeply irresponsible if we were to see that kind of approach taken again. >> today the president is going to take his case to the people of pennsylvania during a visit to hatfield and a road on group. it's the sole manufacturer of knex, which makes angry birds building sets. back to you. >> steve: all right. thank you very much. >> brian: it's unbelievable. the "washington post" says the offer la
consequences here, particularly in the economy, it's going to be in the obama era, things didn't get fixed. who is it? the australian finance minister who says the united states is one budget deal away from being a great country. there's a lot of people in business who think we are poised to do some really good things in the global economy, the united states is, but if we can't untangle this mess, it's not going to happen. >> you know about the inner workings in the government more than any living person, every single administration of our lifetime. you've been behind the scenes -- >> what nonsense you're talking. yes, all right. [laughter] >> are you now optimistic or pessimistic about the way that australian finance minister posed the question? >> you know, in the end, i think things will be fixed. the question is when and what price do you pay on ray road to getting them fixed? you know, i don't think you govern by playing chicken. i say that to democrats, republicans, the white house, the congress. you know, they should sit down and really talk this out and the old joe biden way when he dea
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